looking for gentile pre wash if such a thing exists

[Lance Mark]

As an LSP on my bike, my first one was Gyeon CanCoat. After a bunch of miles and couple of years, I corrected it again and used Polish Angel's Cosmic v2 combined with their High Gloss.

So far, it's held up really well, and since I've last detailed it, I've cleaned it a couple of different ways, but once had an issue when I cleaned it with McKee's N-914 rinseless. As I dried the surface with a MF, it felt like it almost got tacky it got so dry. I reapplied PA's High Gloss and it felt and looked as slick as the day I'd first applied it.

I'm considering a foaming prewash on the bike before I wash it either waterless or rinseless depending on how I want to do it. My thought is to use a prewash to first lift and eliminate as much dust dirt and road grime from the bike before I wash using a microfiber on the surface.

I picked up a bottle of Carpro's Pre Wash Foam, but I've read where any pre wash can degrade a sealant.

My question is this: Is there a more gentle prewash, maybe not the best for all applications, but gentle enough where it's not hard on LSPs?

 

[Silly Rabbit]

Since you have V2 and High Gloss, have you looked at PA snowfoam and their wash? I really really like their wash.

 

[Silly Rabbit]

Snowman and Glasscoat

 

[Lance Mark]

yeah, they're pretty proud of their products if you get my meaning it looks like you can mix it in different ratios with water and for $65 you get 3-6 one liter mixes

it may be the best way to go for my LSP, but if there's a more affordable alternative i'm open

 

[Mike Phillips]

Just to chime in...

As an LSP on my bike, my first one was Gyeon CanCoat. After a bunch of miles and couple of years, I corrected it again and used Polish Angel's Cosmic v2 combined with their High Gloss.

So far, it's held up really well, and since I've last detailed it, I've cleaned it a couple of different ways, but once had an issue when I cleaned it with McKee's N-914 rinseless. As I dried the surface with a MF, it felt like it almost got tacky it got so dry. I reapplied PA's High Gloss and it felt and looked as slick as the day I'd first applied it.

I've never used the McKee's N-914 Rinseless so I don't have an opinion but all their products normally get great reviews and I know Nick Rutter was instrumental in the development of this product and he's a sharp cookie.

I'm considering a foaming prewash on the bike before I wash it either waterless or rinseless depending on how I want to do it. My thought is to use a prewash to first lift and eliminate as much dust dirt and road grime from the bike before I wash using a microfiber on the surface.

Before I go any further, I have a question because - I simply don't know the answer. Here's my questions...

Does the bike get unusually dirty? As in Traffic Film? Do you ride in the rain?


I'm just thinking maybe a prewash is overkill and instead, rinse the bike well with a strong blast of water followed by washing using a quality car wash soap. Maybe I'm UNDER-thinking this?


-Mike Phillips

 

[Lance Mark]

it's not a garage queen, wife and I ride quite a bit, road trips, overnighters 75k miles in the last three years....it gets rained on, snowed on, pooped on, you name it

i've done what you suggested, just a good thorough rinsing before hand, there's no doubt even just doing that gets a bunch of dirt, dust, and road grime

I appreciate you weighing in, sir

 

[Mike Phillips]

Thanks for the follow-up.

3D has a product that does what you want it to do but to make it more gentle you would have to play around with the dilution levels.

3D Super Pres-Soak - Nano Pail - Highly concentrated


I'm sorry to say, or perhaps I'm happy to say, I simply don't normally detail the kinds of vehicles that need a solid pre-soak before washing. Could be the sunny, warm weather here in Stuart, Florida year-around?


Mike

 

[briarpatch]

Bilt Hamber Touchless, at a 2% PIR might do the trick for you

 

[OldandSlow]

S100 Total Cycle Cleaner may suit your purposes.