Hologram free using only a rotary polisher?

[Mike Phillips]

Mike,

Thanks for the detailed info, I greatly appreciate your time and wealth of experience. I have not tried the 3D products yet, and since I just purchased the McKee's Graphene DGCS, I will be using that for quite a while.

I recommended the SPEED to use as a "polish" not an LSP or Last Step Product. You would use this if moving forward you found any type of paint defects. Use the SPEED as a polish and then top with the McKee's Graphene GDCS.

SPEED is an AIO but I often use it like a polish because it will do everything a polish will do plus provide short-time protection. Thus the reason to top with something as a "dedicated LSP" will provide longer lasting protection than any AIO.

But - if you don't have any swirls, scratches, water spots or oxidation - then the you don't need a polish or an AIO - just use the McKee's Graphene GDCS.

I was going to ask you if you recommend using the Bead it Up over the top of the McKee's Graphene DGCS, or use McKee's Graphene detail spray (to stay in same family). But I just looked at the product description and see it is much more than just a detail spray, it's an actual spray on sealant., so I assume it isn't necessary over the top of the McKee's Graphene DGCS.

I haven't used the McKee's Graphene detail spray enough to have a real-world opinion. I've used a lot of the Bead It Up. You're correct in that it is a dedicated polymer sealant but I like to also use it as a spray detailer as long as I'm only refreshing the shine and slickness or the car only has light dust, fingerprints and/or smudges.

Nice product. It's everything everyone hoped a similar, popular product would be.

I am sure life will be much easier on my regular drivers if I were to move on to ceramic, I just need to decide on which one to use. The McKee's Pro Coat 2.0 seems like an easy process.

All the Best,

Bill

Ceramics have changed car care and the detailing world for the better.


-Mike

 

[Bill G]

I recommended the SPEED to use as a "polish" not an LSP or Last Step Product. You would use this if moving forward you found any type of paint defects. Use the SPEED as a polish and then top with the McKee's Graphene GDCS.

Yes, that's what I understood. I was commenting on the fact that I am most likely going to use the McKee's Graphene DGCS rather than the Bead It Up as an LSP since I just purchased that from Nick last month (I assume it is going to last me quite some time). I wasn't comparing the McKee's to Speed AIO.

However, if I feel a need to top the Graphene DGCS after maintenance washes in the future, I will pick some Bead It Up from you. Sounds like it is the product performance we expect from so many, but all seem to disappoint for that purpose.

 

[Bill G]

Nice product. It's everything everyone hoped a similar, popular product would be.

I think I am reading between the lines correctly, and know what you are referring to . One that gets a lot of criticism for being a dust magnet.

 

[Mike Phillips]

Yes, that's what I understood. I was commenting on the fact that I am most likely going to use the McKee's Graphene DGCS rather than the Bead It Up as an LSP since I just purchased that from Nick last month (I assume it is going to last me quite some time).

Yes, the McKee's 37 Graphene DGCS should last you a long time, especially if you apply a thin coat. I applied a thin layer to the 1967 Ferrari PLUS used the product for some after-the-fact pictures for a separate article and it still looks like I hardly made a dent in the bottle.

wasn't comparing the McKee's to Speed AIO.

Got it. Didn't think you were. And there's no comparison at all.

McKee's 37 Graphene Deep Gloss Ceramic Sealant = Non-cleaning Finishing Sealant. Like a Finishing Wax only no wax but a synthetic.

3D SPEED = AIO or All-in-One or if you're up-to-speed with nomenclature - it's a cleaner/wax.

However, if I feel a need to top the Graphene DGCS after maintenance washes in the future, I will pick some Bead It Up from you.

Sounds like it is the product performance we expect from so many, but all seem to disappoint for that purpose.

When I see others really like a product I know is for the most part mundane - it shows me their knowledge and experience level. I was with a guy that did a demo with a similar product when it was first introduced and I wasn't impressed then and never have been impressed. But that's just me based upon my knowledge and experience level.


-Mike

 

[Mike Phillips]

I think I am reading between the lines correctly, and know what you are referring to . One that gets a lot of criticism for being a dust magnet.

I never really cared about the dust issue with this product or any product because dust will always be a problem.

See this article,

Dust attraction to your car's paint - can the problem be fixed?


I did a side-by-side test using this other similar product compared to Bead It Up and Bead It Up easily lasted longer and felt slicker or more slippery to the touch. It's a really easy test to do.


-Mike Phillips

 

[Bill G]

Your dust article is quite interesting and anyone who has owned a car and took care of it for any length of time, completely understands this. So this begs the question: Wouldn't these water activated sealants like McKee's Hydro Blue of Hydro Graphene (or the many others available like CarPro's, etc) prevent the static since you aren't wiping it on by hand, be the best choice to keep dusting down? Then drying with filtered blown air? You completely eliminate the hand wiping.